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Argentina plans to take islands dispute with UK to UN

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Argentina’s President Cristina Kirchner delivers a speech in front of a picture displaying the Malvinas Islands painted in the same colors as Argentina’s national flag, the government palace, Buenos Aires, February 7, 2012.

Argentina says it will file a formal complaint with the United Nations over Britain’s “militarization” of the disputed Malvinas (Falklands) Islands.

Amid growing tensions between Buenos Aires and London, Argentina’s President Cristina Kirchner on Tuesday criticized Britain for militarizing their quarrel over the archipelago, saying she would take the case to the UN.

“We will present a complaint to the UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly, as this militarization poses a grave danger to international security,” Kirchner said.

Argentina and Britain have intensified rhetoric over the issue as the 30th anniversary of their war over the Islands, which started on April 2, 1982, draws close.

The tension between the two countries was further fueled recently when British Prince William, a Royal Air Force helicopter pilot, was assigned on a military tour to the islands along with a warship.

Argentina has criticized the move, saying it is not seeking another war over the Malvinas, but the resolution of the sovereignty dispute through negotiations.

The Malvinas Islands, located about 300 miles off Argentina’s coast and home to about 3,000 inhabitants, have been “occupied” by Britain since 1833.

However, Buenos Aires claims sovereignty over the archipelago as it controlled the islands prior to their colonization by the British.


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  1. Stefan Zeiss says:

    I don’t know why all of the sudden the Malvinas/Falklands dispute is flaring up rhetoric wise. But be that as it may, its my firm belief that both sides have valid claims and I hope its worked out peacefully. The Argentine naval and air forces are in a sorry state of affairs. The Fuerza Armadas Argentinas (FAA) have only 1960s and 1970’s vintage aircraft. These barely flightworthy and antiquated warplanes would be swepped out of the sky by Britain’s new and impressive type 45 anti air warfare destroyers. These new RN warships, though not as capable as the USN’s Aegis, could form an almost impregnable blanket that would doom any seaborne invasion, given Argentina’s current abilities. But the Royal Navy is not without it’s Achelles heels. These type 45 warships are very expensive and today’s Britain can only afford a literal handful of them. Given that, Argentina could swamp the RN’s air defenses with relatively cheap drones, if they ever chose to develops such capabilities. Moreover, Britain’s naval air arm is composed entirely of the short ranged carrier based Harriers. These aircraft performed only marginally well during the 1st Falklands war and would be far less effective today, given their high heat signature and vast improvements in heat seeking missiles. Though Britain is scheduled to receive carrier capable F-35s, these aircraft are experiencing serious difficulties in flight testing and are years away from deployment. Argentina could also do well for itself by procuring modern hybrid electric submarines like Spain’s new S-80s or Germany’s type 214s. These subs could cause lot of havoc against the RN due to their extreme stealth and the short range needed for Argentina to operate them. Those new subs are relatively cheap and quieter than anything in even the RN or even the US Navy and very difficult to detect.

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  2. Nexus789 says:

    Actually the Type 45’s have a new generation of radar system and it is debatable that Aegis is clearly technically superior – Aegis has the current advantage of being in operational for 20+ years and ‘proven’ (let’s see what happens when someone fires lots of missiles at it). So believe the hubris if you want.

    The counter view can be applied to an asymmetrical approach to warfare and BAe systems is heavily involved in programs producing sophisticated remote drones. The UK could easily deploy a range of highly capable and armed drones in large numbers – carrying anti ship missiles for instance.

    Your facts are not correct. The Harriers no longer exist (some would say a stupid move and politicians are stupid so no surprise there). There are Typhoons on the islands. The islands have a runway that can accept wide bodied commercial jets – military flight time from the UK is 18 hours with a refuelling stop. Besides the carriers would be big targets and are only of use of you did not have a land based airport and had to retake the islands.

    Also I would suggest that the Harriers performed very well given the circumstances and were only lost as a result of accident and ground fire.

    The Typhoons in shake downs against all other combat aircraft (F16’s, F15’s latest Russian stuff, etc) perform very well. They could put up their whole air force and the Typhoons would target and shot them all down. In a dog fight against the F22 would do well although the stealth capabilities of the F22 could enable it to stand off and take out a foe without the need to get close. Maybe the Argentineans could save up and buy one if the US sold it to other countries.

    The UK has advanced nuclear attack subs and the Argentinean subs would be not be much use if the UK controls the islands airport as you would not need ships. Ships would be sitting ducks as the US may find in trying to take on Iran.

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  3. Stefan Zeiss says:

    Nexus789, I was not picking on Britain or putting then down in any way. I was merely laying down scenarios where Argentina could cause havoc. Whether the Aegis is superior to the UK made Sampson is not worth even arguing, given that the Aegis is a fully solid state system. Yes, the Typhoons are a very capable airplane along with the RAF’s Tornado strike aircraft. I did mention that Argentina’s FAA is in a pitiful state of affairs. Moreover, I am also well aware that the RN has a small fleet of nuclear powered attack subs. However, newer and much more cost effective Air Independent (AIP) subs are starting to become readily available like Germany’s type 212 and Spain’s S-80. Whether these would be made available to Argentina is debatable. These AIP subs are quieter than anything even in the USN processes and very difficult to detect. If Argentina were to acquire these boats, they could wreak havoc on British shipping. Controlling the Falkland/Malvinas is one thing, but supplying them is another. Moreover, the technology of the drone is not that exotic anymore given that many minor powers are buying them up. That is why the danger of swamping is a real danger to the RN. Britain will only acquire 6 of the originally planned 12 type 45 destroyers due to budget cuts. These new RN T45 destroyers are indeed impressive, but far too small in numbers to prevent the danger of swamping. With regard to the Harriers during the Falklands war, they were indeed only moderately successful. The RN suffered heavy losses in shipping, where in one case a rather primitive Italian made Aermacchi punched through RN’s air defenses and dropped a payload on a destroyer World Two style. My main point is that as time progresses, it going to be increasingly difficult for Britain to hold on to those islands. An honorable and reasonable compromise is the logical choice for both nations to avoid trouble. The wishes of the Island’s inhabitants should be respected along with their well being. But that should not get in the way of addressing the issue of colonialism. Britain had no right to seize those islands back in the 1830s simply because they could. The Argentines do deserve a reasonable compromise with regard to sovereignty.

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