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Think that President Obama will stand by his word and veto the legislation that will allow the government to detain American citizens without charge or trial? Think again.

The Obama administration has insisted that the president will veto the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, a bill that passed through the Senate last week. Under the legislation, the United States of America is deemed a battlefield and Americans suspected of committing a terrorism offense can be held without trial and tortured indefinitely. Despite the grave consequences for citizens and the direct assault on the US Constitution, the act managed to make it through both halves of Congress but President Obama says he won’t let it become a law.

According to Senator Carl Levin, however, Americans should be a bit more concerned about what the president’s actual intentions are. Levin, who sits on the Armed Services Committee as chairman, has revealed to Congress that the Obama administration influenced the wording of the act and shot down text that would have saved American citizens from the indefinite imprisonment and suspension of habeas corpus.

(Click image above for video of Senator Levin’s speech)

Senator Levin told Congress recently that under the original wording of the National Defense Authorization Act, American citizens were excluded from the provision that allowed for detention. Once Obama’s officials saw the text though, says Levin, “the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.”

Specifically, the section that Obama asked to be reworded was Section 1031 of the NDAA FY2012, which says that “any person who has committed a belligerent act” could be held indefinitely.

“It was the administration that asked us to remove the very language which we had in the bill which passed the committee…we removed it at the request of the administration,” said Levin. “It was the administration which asked us to remove the very language the absence of which is now objected to.”

John Wood of Change.org writes that President Obama proposed a veto of Section 1032 of the NDAA, which does not pertain to the detention of American citizens. Rather, that section deals with the use of the US military in taking custody of suspected criminals. Section 1031, which actually deals with the indefinite imprisonment of Americans, remains not only unopposed by the Obama administration, but the president has made sure that the law specifically includes Americans, urging Congress to redraft the legislation with increasingly confusing wording that makes the legalization detrimental to America.

President Obama could sign off on the legislation as early as this December 13 if he chooses not to exercise his veto power. The bill, which includes budgetary provisions for the US military, comes at a price-tag several billion dollars cheaper than the president had asked for of Congress.


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4 Responses to " Obama insists on indefinite detention of Americans "

  1. kd says:

    Don’t forget about the greatest right you have as an american citizen, the freedom of speech, don’t neglect to express your discomfort when being tortured.

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  2. dwenger@shareintel.com says:

    review this

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  3. Jean-Francois Morf says:

    I ask for indefinite torturing of all dictators! Assad at first…

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  4. R. Roberts says:

    Writers are dead-meat if S. 1867 is signed by Obama.

    Why should anyone be surprised President Obama insisted on indefinite detentions of U.S. citizens in the Defense Authorization Act? It was widely known that Obama gave a speech in May 2010 at a Security Conference that proposed, incarcerating anyone in indefinite detention without evidence of wrongdoing that government deemed a “combatant” or likely to engage in a violent act in the future; including U.S. Citizens. After Obama signs the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, Obama like Hitler, will have the power to arrest members of Congress, drag U.S. Citizens off the street and from their homes to be imprisoned indefinitely based only on Government’s claim they are a “combatant” or Belligerent” and or likely to engage in a violent act in the future; or threaten National Security.

    If Obama signs the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, overnight millions of lawful U.S. activists could be subject to arrest, Indefinite military detention. When you examine Obama’s May 2010 speech, it appears Obama wanted (retroactive power) to incarcerate anyone the government claims had (prior) committed or supported violent acts on the premise he or she is likely to engage in or support violent acts in the future: U.S. activists will be extremely vulnerable because no activist knows what other activist or groups they associated or networked did in the past or might do illegally in the future domestically or overseas.

    After S. 1867 is signed by Obama, Government will need only allege a person; group, organization or former inmate committed or might commit a violent act or threaten U.S. National Security to order Indefinite Detention of lawful Americans in military custody with no evidence whatsoever. Expect that Americans will soon be afraid to speak out. Expect many Americans will abstain visiting websites or writing comments that might be deemed inappropriate by U.S. Government, i.e. cause someone to be investigated or detained in Military Custody. It is foreseeable that any “individual” who writes on the Internet or verbally express an opinion against any entity of U.S. Government or its coalition partners may be deemed by authorities a “Combatant or Belligerent” or someone likely to engage in, support or provoke violent acts according to McCain’s S.1867. Writers are dead-meat if S. 1867 is signed by Obama. Government can too easily allege an author’s writings inspired Combatant(s) or Belligerent(s) in the past, and could in the future or do now, to order an author’s indefinite military detention. It is problematic that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings or allowed legal counsel that are interrogated, will be prosecuted for ordinary crimes because of their (alleged admissions) while held in indefinite military Detention. Obama will have the power to override the U.S. Constitution. Obama will have the power to detain indefinitely any American without probable cause or evidence. What American will dare speak out against the government after Obama signs S.1867?

    Obama is centralizing power in the federal Government by getting passed legislation that U.S. government can potentially use to intimidate and threaten corporations among others. Hitler got passed similar laws shortly before the burning of the German Parliament building that was blamed on the communists: immediately after the fire, Hitler used his prior passed police-state laws to coerce corporations and influential Citizens to support passage of more fascist legislation e.g., the (DISCRIMINATORY LAWS / DECREE OF THE REICH PRESIDENT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE AND STATE that suspended provisions of the German Constitution that protected Citizens’ freedoms and civil liberties. Obama can now use similar new laws e.g. S.1867 and the Patriot Act that now include more than 350 civil asset forfeiture laws, to threaten government seizure of any corporation or individual’s assets to strong-arm U.S. corporations, institutions and others to support more Government Police State (Fascist) legislation to intimidate, threaten and curtail the civil liberties of Americans.

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