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The Netherlands to Abandon Multiculturalism



The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands.

A new integration bill (covering letter and 15-page action plan), which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: “The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society.”

The letter continues: “A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands. The integration will not be tailored to different groups.”

The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants to ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.

The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner, “it is not the government’s job to integrate immigrants.” The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.

If necessary, the government will introduce extra measures to allow the removal of residence permits from immigrants who fail their integration course.

The measures are being imposed by the new center-right government of Conservatives (VVD) and Christian Democrats (CDA), with parliamentary support from the anti-Islam Freedom Party (PVV), whose leader, Geert Wilders, is currently on trial in Amsterdam for “inciting hatred” against Muslims.

As expected, Muslim organizations in Holland have been quick to criticize the proposals. The Moroccan-Dutch organization Samenwerkingsverband van Marokkaanse Nederlanders, which advises the government on integration matters, argues that Muslim immigrants need extra support to find a job. The umbrella Muslim group Contactorgaan Moslims en Overheid says that although it agrees that immigrants should be better integrated into Dutch society, it is opposed to a ban on burqas.

But polls show that a majority of Dutch voters support the government’s skepticism about multiculturalism. According to a Maurice de Hond poll published by the center-right newspaper Trouw on June 19, 74 percent of Dutch voters say immigrants should conform to Dutch values. Moreover, 83 percent of those polled support a ban on burqas in public spaces.

The proper integration of the more than one million Muslims now living in Holland has been a major political issue ever since 2002, when Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was assassinated for his views on Muslim immigration, and since 2004, when Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was stabbed to death for producing a movie that criticized Islam.

Muslim immigration to the Netherlands can be traced back to the 1960s and 1970s, when a blue collar labor shortage prompted the Dutch government to conclude recruitment agreements with countries like Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and Turkey. In the 1980s and 1990s, Muslims also arrived in the Netherlands as asylum seekers and refugees, mainly from Afghanistan, Bosnia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Somalia.

There are now an estimated 1.2 million Muslims in the Netherlands, which is equivalent to about 6 percent of the country’s overall population. Moroccans and Turks comprise nearly two-thirds of all Muslims in the Netherlands. Most Muslims live in the four major cities of the country: Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht.

As their numbers grow, Muslim immigrants have become increasingly more assertive in carving out a role for Islam within Dutch society. For example, a documentary aired by the television program Netwerk in June 2009 reported that Dutch law was being systematically undermined by the growth of Sharia justice in the Netherlands.

In December 2004, the Dutch Ministry of the Interior published a 60-page report titled From Dawa to Jihad. Prepared by the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD, the report says that the Netherlands is home to up to 50,000 radical Muslims whose key ideological aim is to target the Western way of life and to confront Western political, economic, and cultural domination.

The report concludes that Dutch society is poorly equipped to resist the threat of radical Islam because of “a culture of permissiveness” that has become synonymous with “closing one’s eyes” to multiple transgressions of the law.

As for Interior Minister Donner, he has undergone a late-in-life conversion on the issue of Muslim immigration. In September 2006, while serving as justice minister, Donner provoked an outcry after saying that he welcomed the introduction of Islamic Sharia law in the Netherlands if the majority wants it. He also said Holland should give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions.

After applauding Queen Beatrix for respecting Islam by not insisting that a Muslim leader shake hands with her during a visit to the Mobarak Mosque in The Hague, Donner said: “A tone that I do not like has crept into the political debate on integration. A tone of: ‘Thou shalt assimilate. Thou shalt adopt our values in public. Be reasonable, do it our way.’ That is not my approach.”

Fast forward to 2011 and Donner now says his government “will distance itself from the relativism contained in the model of a multicultural society.” Although society changes, he says, it must not be “interchangeable with any other form of society.”

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  1. Good Ol' Rebel United Kingdom says:

    Ghey!

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  2. against the islam !!! United Kingdom says:

    Great……At last we see a pair of balls being used in the right way….When will people learn that ISLAM is not the way and it will only be the downfall of the world if we let it GROW!! You Have been WARNED!

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  3. Brothers fight the plague of ISLAM!! United Kingdom says:

    ISLAM IS A PLAGUE CARRIED ON THE BACKS OF MUSLIMS….MAKE A STAND AND DO IT NOW!!! DONT LET THEM TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY….DO IT WHILE YOU CAN AND WHILE YOU HAVE A CHANCE…..FIGHT BROTHERS AND SISTERS…DO IT FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND DO IT FOR YOURSELF!!!! TOMORROW WILL NOT DO,AS TOMORROW WILL BE TO LATE!!! I WARN YOU ALL NOW AND MARK MY WORDS ITS DOWN TO YOU!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

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    • Damien United States says:

      Are you any better than those fanatic muslims yourself? Do you really believe the religion is an enemy? Do you think people will be impressed with this kind of thinking? How would you response to same kinda rants about “christians” in muslim countries? If we let people like you take charge, how would the world be? You must be either very young, or hopelessly stupid.

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      • First of all, don’t call others stupid when they are speaking the Truth. Strattling the fence on such matters, is only a self-righteous attitude. AND only God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit is of Righteousness and Truth!!! Because He is our Creator/ Father, He is the one that is correct on ALL matters! But most people don’t get that, nor seek Him, seek His face, His Love, or His Holy Word, or accept it as Truth. Your intepretation of the Truth is not accurate! Islam is a govt., a religion, and the culture all in one of their society! Their OWN people don’t have a choice in such matters of religion. They are Muslims and will comply OR loose their life or freedom (imprisonment)! In our country, we have sooo many freedoms, such as not to believe in God or not, or to believe who he is the way we want to worship/ believe! So, if they don’t let their own people decide how to worship or not, and make women property, and 90% covered, and/ or rape/ beat them in the streets (which is NOT against their laws), children allowed large, powerful guns in the streets, having riots on a weekly basis, etc. So if they, the Muslim aren’t given choices, and Christianity and our country does give the choice, WHO would you still say is the radical bully? Who is going to do harm? If a Muslim country will harm within, who are you to say that they won’t do it outside of themselves. So are not other countries allowed to protect themselves against such bullying? You aren’t thinking on the long-term affects of such a defected way of thinking! America has let it’s guard down on letting too many people scream, kick, fight, and have their temper-tantrums, one too many times, and now we have too many unruly children! Since when is it a bad thing to correct BAD behavior?!?

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        • Damien United States says:

          Pff, if god created us, why the hell would he send conflicting ideologies and confuse us? Sure you can say he only sent Christianity and all else is false. What makes you right and muslim or jew wrong? Your faith?
          You’re also wrong on how free you are in your country and how muslims are subject to cruel treatments of their religion. Ask the reason why jews in Iran are not fleeing to Israel. I see examples everyday how free americans are in their own country. No kids have ever been arrested in a muslim country for selling lemodade. Do you want more examples, just visit Alex Jones’ site. He’s a real patriot!!
          All religions are created by man for controlling the stupid masses. Your belief is being exploited by non-believers, and you are still in sleep.
          I wish people of the world joined forces to expell the

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          • Damien United States says:

            Also wanted to say, among all countries I visited and lived, I find people in US are the ones most scarred of their police. Everyone in US is paranoid about being caught by cops. They are scared shitless, because they know how ruthless cops can be, and they usually are. In no other country, they affraid of cops as much as americans do.

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          • always right United States says:

            =)) The Muslims don’t rant against Christians Damien, they cut their heads off. You need to grow up and quit listening to the politically correct crowd of fools and leftist. As far as America goes, it’s because the left have taken away our rights here and the cops are nothing more than brownshirts today. And Alex Jones is a fear mongering fool and part of the group set to destroy America.

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      • Joe United States says:

        I am very impressed with brothers fight the plague of Islam thinking.This how I want Americans of all races to think and speak.I am a black American man and I think the same way as anti Islamic white Americans.I love to read anti Islamic post on eu times.net and on Bare Naked Islam web sites.I like it when white Europeans speak out against Islam and Muslim immigration into Europe.Many Muslims living in Minneapolis,Minnesota that use a public gymnasium to go swimming in and for other recreational activities want separate days for Muslims only to use the gymnasium for swimming and other activities.This is not assimilating into American society.I have been reading about Muslims immigrating into other countries like Finland and Muslims don’t want assimilate into Finnish society,true not all Muslim immigrants keep to them selfs but most do.In Finland there is a Muslim community where some Muslim scholars want to experiment with an all Muslim fifty member parliament in their Muslim community and if they are successful with this experiment,then the Muslims will want to gain seats in Finland’s parliament and will try to bring sharia laws into all of Finland.Islamification of Finland is the ultimate goal of Muslims living in Finland and the rest of Scandinavia.

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      • William Tell Germany says:

        I’m guessing that you are either a student, Black or so socially unacceptable that the only woman that would drop her knickers for you was as black as night!

        It’s people like you that cause so much trouble in the world. You have a big mouth, a trait of most students and you think that you know the answers to everything. Your supid mouth flies open before you think of putting the brain into gear.

        People like you, that spout such utter bullshit should be FORCED to go and live and work amongst the people you love so much in their own country for 12 months. I can guarantee you that you would have a VERY different opinion when you got back (assuming that you managed to stay alive for that long).

        You should be FORCED to go live and work in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam for 12 months. You should see all the western magazines on sale, which have been mutilated and every mention of the work God, Jesus, or ANY mention of Christianity or pork, CUT OUT with scissors. You should receive your letters at Christmas with the stamp cut off because it had a nativity scene on it. You should be thrown into jail because you have a bible or even a passage from the bible in your home, your luggage or your person. So much for the religion of peace, love and tolerance!

        You should see the public executions every Friday in the major towns or the amputation of limbs. THEN come back and spout your bullshit.

        You should be FORCED to live in Africa with the Blacks you love and admire so much and run the risk of being killed because the crops failed after you arrived or someone’s friend was killed because of his own stupidity and the fact that YOU did something is deemed to be the reason. You should sit amongst the savages and watch them drink and fuck themselves stupid every day, without ever lifting a finger to do any sort of work to help provide for themselves or the herds of kids they breed.

        When your beloved Black wife / concubine / whatever opens its legs to any Black man in the vicinity without the slightest worry about AIDS, pregancy or any other social disease, you’ll realise that these people are NOT like you. But then again, maybe you’ll enjoy raping every woman outside your own village that you come across.

        YOU ARE A BIG MOUTHED MORON and I really hope and pray that you meet the the people you love and support so much, up close and personal and have a taste of the truth, instead of spouting what the media tells you that you should spout.

        I hope that Holland continues on the present path. I hope that at the next election Geert Wilders becosme Prime Minister and I hope that France votes in Marine Le Pen and that the rest of Europe wake up and do the same. It’s too late for the UK, they don’t have the balls to oppose anything and they have already given their country away.

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        • Joe United States says:

          @William Tell.Are you responding to post from 09/07/2011at 1:48am?

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        • Damien United States says:

          Ok, ok, we get it, you hate blacks. Though we’re talkign about muslims here, you don’t see any problem expressing your true feelings about blacks. I’m guessing, but maybe your family member was raped and killed by blacks?

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      • Joe United States says:

        What does being very young have any thing to do with being anti-Islam?Fanatical Islamic Muslim men are the enemy of Christians in Nigeria,read up on the news about the radical Islamic organization Boko Haram.They control Northern Nigeria and want to impose Wahabbism in ALL of Nigeria.They have destroyed places of worship and killed black Christians in Nigeria.This violence in Nigeria makes radical Islam the enemy of moderate Muslims and non Muslims.

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        • Damien United States says:

          “What does being very young have any thing to do with being anti-Islam?”
          That you may not understand the difference between the people who uses religion to justify their violent behaviour, and the people who never resort to violence, even they are the true followers of the religion. Then you might label the religion as the cause of the problems you are facing. There are violent people all over the world, simply because they were raised with violent behaviour. Some turn out to be muslim, some christian and some atheist. Your “short” experience tells you that all muslims must be behaving the same way as those radical islamists does. But you may find as you grow up that stupidty lays with people that use religion to justify they own need of violence. Just that.

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      • lady kroft United States says:

        Christians in other countries are not blood thirsty and trying to convert them to a sadistic, abusive, degenerate religion under the guise of “peaceful”. YOU sir are the “hopelessly stupid” one.

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        • Damien United States says:

          Look what you’re saying about Islam. Sadistic, abusive and degenerage religion. Surely you wouldn’t be happy if people are converting to that religion. But facts remain that many christians have converted to islam and other way around too. I would agree that there are lots of unaducated people in arab countries, and it is natural for those people act the way they are with a level of education they receive. Though it no way means they are acting stupidly because of their religion.
          OOh, talking about blood thrsty religios people, take a look at this news. http://www.rt.com/news/girl-vatican-sex-priest-975/

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      • lady kroft United States says:

        lady kroft says:

        13/05/2012 at 6:30 pm

        Christians in other countries are not blood thirsty and trying to convert them to a sadistic, abusive, degenerate religion under the guise of “peaceful”. YOU sir are the “hopelessly stupid” one.

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      • Lauging at Damien Korea Republic of says:

        Damien, you are a fool. Do you hear any fanaticism coming from the Dutch? No. What you hear is the sound of a small European country whose welfare state has been overburdened with immigrants who do not become part of the productive community. So when you ask your inane question “Do you think that you are better than Muslims yourself?” my answer is yes. Yes, I am better. And if the Muslim immigrants didn’t also believe that the Netherlands would be better than their home countries, they never would have immigrated.

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        • Laugh all you want United States says:

          Laughing is good, it’s also my favorite.
          I see what you’re saying, but how is it different from Japanese person coming to EU and trying to practice their own culture? After WW2, some Japanese were relocated to South america. They did not integrate with locals and locals didn’t really like them. Are they to be blamed? It is each countries responsibility to regulate immigration. You can’t blame minorities if your government is the one allows them to immigrate. Sure they will want to keep on practicing their culture. I think it would bother you less if it were buddhism and not Islam. I think most Christians are bothered by the fact that Islam was sent by god, because man have changed bible the way they see fit. Which is logical, how can there be different version of what god sent.
          Anyway, I’m not religious person and don’t enjoy writing about it either. I hope religion will die and people will not be bound by outdated thinking.

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      • RonCo215 United States says:

        You compare Islam with Christianity?! You are an idiot!! Go live in a muslim country and try to be a Christian! Islam is a sickness that has no comparisons on the planet earth! Maybe you some how you haven’t heard that Christians are either slaughtered or forced to flee muslim countries! Useful idiot, for sure!

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        • Damien United States says:

          Comparing Christinaity to Islam is very valid, they are one of the same thing, interpretted differently. They have more things in common than uncommon. I would love for you to post some links here documenting the recent slaying of Christians in muslim countries?? I’m sure that would make big headlines in BBC. I’m from a muslim country, having churches, synagogs with everyone practicing their religions in peace. I’ve never heard any incident where christians are being killed because of their believes. In fact, religious people feel closer to each other than they are to atheists.
          Anyway, I am no muslim, I couldn’t care less if they all dissapeared from the face of the earth, along with all other religious people. Growing up in a muslim country, I know most religious people are uneducated, lack of a better word, stupid people. Our enemy should be underdevelopment and undereducation, not religious people. Not single religion.

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      • Emmetmessenger United States says:

        Damien – Fyi, Christians are being murdered in those “Muslim countries.” You sound quite ignorant of Sharia’s tenets and the Thirty Articles of the International Human Rights, which Islamists want to be compliant to their Sharia law. Watch the ex-Muslim, Nessrriinn’s poem video “She Is Buried Chest High”. Or read Ibn Warraq’s: Why I Am Not A Muslim. For the sake of human rights.

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        • Damien United States says:

          “Sharia’s tenets and the Thirty Articles of the International Human Rights”

          Islam is not Sharia. Not all islamic countries practice sharia laws, in fact its practiced very seldom even in most fanatical islamic countries. I totally agree Sharia is unfair, unjust and outdated and against human rights.

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      • Kootenay James Canada says:

        You said : ‘you must be either very young, or hopelessly stupid ‘ That applies to you. Islam is the worst enemy of nations who have fallen to it . Muslim countries used to be educated, rich and powerful and united, but are now ignorant (many women =50% of population unschooled), poor, weak and divided.
        Join them ? Go figure

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    • lady kroft United States says:

      DAMIEN is the name of Satan’s son… so, that explains it.

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      • Damien United States says:

        Hehe, that’s right, I was inspired by the movie OMEN. But I’m soo for good!!

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  4. the insurgent Viet Nam says:

    Islam is OK, if it stays in muslim countries. The fact is Europe is flooded with muslims and theyd emand minarettes and mosques. We do NOT want them. They can practice their religion at home. If they dont like it, go back to their muslim countries. Europe is CHRSITIAN and we fought them since centuries and we will do it again! EUROPE IS NOT FOR MUSLIMS! Sorry. The sooner you disgest this, the better for u.

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    • Damien United States says:

      Mr Insuregent,

      I understand you don’t want to see any religious symbols other than your own, in your own country. But would you want to live in a world with no religious tolerance? Each country is sticking their own religion and not letting others practice their believes. Well you wouldn’t mind, but I guess I would. I’d rather living in a world where everyone is free to believe and practice whatever they chose to. I just think world would be better place to live this way. You can get upset to your government for allowing religious freedom. I wouldn’t. My birthplace has Mosques, Churches and Synagogs and more being added all the time. Should I too protest and say Christians should go back to their countries if they want to practice Christianty. I wouldn’t be very wise person if I said that now would I?

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      • islamisnottolerant United States says:

        How stupid can you be ? muslims KILL children in suicide attacks strapping them down with C-4 and sending them off to meet allah in shopping plazas , they mutilate women and have sex with infants . they marry 9 yr old girls and have a tendancy to want to kill everything that does not agree with islam . how the hell is that tolerance ? why would we let these animals stay in our country ? are you that uninformed , or just brainwashed by american media outlets ? wake the F up !!!

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        • Damien United States says:

          Again, you’re taking the actions of small uneducated and fanatic people and blaming their religions for their actions. Not fair! Each i
          person should be judged by their own actions. Islam does not teach those things you mentioned. And we may not be reading same news because I don’t recall reading any of these things recently. Maybe you can post some links?
          It sure sounds awfull.
          Anyway, noone is saying you should harbor these kinds of people in your countries. Kill all who does those things, noone will blame you. But leave the fuck alone all others who quietly practice their religions.

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      • RonCo215 United States says:

        Damien, stop bathing so much, since you are already brainwashed. All religions, except Islam are tolerant!!! Duhhh!!

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  5. Against the threat of ISLAM!!! United Kingdom says:

    If you think islam is ok,then carry on and live the lie and you will find out at your own cost….Islam is to worship the devil and all his followers…Dont to fooled into thinking its a peaceful way to live,you have deen deceived by satan…..The fight has begun and islam will fall,as the devil will be cast out from the earth and all who follow the beast..Christ has returned to destroy the fake prophet mahdi….The truth will come and the evil whos name is islam and all who follow it will be cast out of the heavens,as the beast has no place on earth.You have been warned once again…when will you people learn not to trust the true beast of islam…The Koran is the book of the devil….Rise up and destroy and threat of ISLAM!!

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  6. Against the threat of ISLAM!!! United Kingdom says:

    Carry on if you think i am wrong…you will see in the end when its all to late to act….If you think islam is a peaceful religion and everyone is equal plus its good to intergrate together..then my friends you have been deceived…The Koran is a EVIL book only here to destroy your world as you know it!!! Its controlled by your goverments and its here to enslave you into the new world order…Why do you think your goverments say its good to intergrate and live together….It does not work and never will and they know it!! Cast out the devil and islam be no more or say goodbye to the world and life you have no more!
    Once again i warn you all…Rise up and fight!!

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  7. Against the threat of ISLAM!!! United Kingdom says:

    Damien….you are very foolish or you are easily deceived…You carry on if you think islam is so great and i am so stupid…We will see in the end my friend….. :-D

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    • Damien United States says:

      “The Koran is a EVIL book only here to destroy your world as you know it!!!”

      OK, I probably shouldn’t even be replying to this post, there’s no point trying to argue with you. Only counterargument I can present is that Koran had not destroyed the world of millions of people living in peace and harmony. I agree that there are lots of fanatics and they mostly happen to be unfortunate, uneducated, dumb fcks. But they shouldn’t be considered as they are representing that religion, just like the actions of the people in news below shouldn’t be considered representing the religion. Even though they are the biggest representatives.
      http://www.rt.com/news/girl-vatican-sex-priest-975/

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  8. Good Ol' Rebel United Kingdom says:

    Hows about a nice cup of STFU.

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  9. Joe United States says:

    I hpoe this abandonment on multiculturalism becomes a domino affect and hits my country very hard!Like a mega tsunami!

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  10. Joths Australia says:

    With muslims comes corruption and eventually poverty ,then anachy.Stop this failing multiculteral experiment on the european culture.

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  11. Richard United States says:

    This is a wonderful development but it reminds me a bit of the satire you find on The Onion. The things that are proposed and the incompatibility of Muslims in ANY Western country are so obvious. The people who thought otherwise, that multiculturalism was beneficial, must have been morons to require “corrective” measures like this. It beggars the imagination that these kinds of problems could have taken root in the first place.

    In Rotterdam or The Hague graffiti that read “God is Love” was immediately removed by the city upon the complaint of the mosque opposite. It was the mosque that should have been removed, not the graffiti.

    Fantastic cowardice. I hope this has been fixed with these new attitudes on the part of the majority population who begged to be ruled by their inferiors before.

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    • Damien United States says:

      Future is multicultural. This year was the biggest number of multicultural marriages on earth and you know what? Next year there will be even more. Go hide in your cave if you don’t want to face the truth. I for one would love to live in a country where all people from different cultures. It’s more colorful, more interesting that way. Alternative would be facing the same narrow minded people that conversation would get boring very fast. Think of different cultures as different ingredeans that makes a nutricious food. Alternative is eating potatoes at all times. You potato eaters!!

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  12. Mick Australia says:

    If Islam is so great why don’t the Muslims stay put in their own country or if they fell the need to migrate, migrate to another Muslim country where they will feel at home with their own culture. There are many Muslim counties that are much wealthier than the Weastern countries!! The entire Middle East for instace is of the Muslim faith! Saudi, UAE, ASIA, Indonesia, Malaysia to name a few.

    I’ll hazard a guess: Because other Muslim countries don’t want the migrants (Muslim) as they will put an enormous strain on their purse strings. You try crossing a border illegally into a Muslim country and you are immediately jailed, no if or buts! No hand outs!

    We the Westerners are an easy touch and full of do gooders, and they (Muslim migrants) know this and will continue migrating legally or illegally as long as we allow it to happen. Illegal Muslim migrants get more welfare than the old age pensioner who as lived, supported and paid taxes all their lives.

    It is time to make a stand and STOP the Muslim migration in it’s present form. I (and a lot of other Australians) am not against immigration but the migrtants must abide by our values and integrate into our society without trying to turn our country founded on Christian values into another Muslim state. We MUST change our rules or be overrun!!!!

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    • Damien United States says:

      “If Islam is so great why don’t the Muslims stay put in their own country or if they fell the need to migrate”

      You know as well as I do that religion has nothing to do with the reasons why they need ot migrate. There are aussies all over the world, including UEA.

      “We the Westerners are an easy touch and full of do gooders”

      Yep, I see many examples in this page, full of good christians showing how tolerant they are against other cultures.

      “Illegal Muslim migrants get more welfare than the old age pensioner who as lived, supported and paid taxes all their lives”

      And muslims are to blame for this? If this is reallly the case, you have some complaining to do to your government. I wouldn’t want the same happen in my country either.

      “It is time to make a stand and STOP the Muslim migration in it’s present form”

      If you were really about being fair to your own people, you wouldn’t blame the religion, you’d blame the policies adopted by your government. Your attack to religion tells me that it’s the religion that bothers you. You just don’t want to see muslims in your country. This is not respectable, because it makes you any other religious fanatic that contributes to the problem, not trying to resolve it. If everyone felt the same, we would be living in a very sad world. I personally wouldn’t want to live.

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  13. Richard United States says:

    Mick, that’s the problem. Muslims won’t abide by your values or integrate. Therefore, you must oppose immigration and demand the removal of those who are incompatible with your culture. This is an idea that will upset the brainless but their idea that masses of third-world migrants will effect a huge improvement of your national culture — an absurd and vicious idea — is 100% acceptable to them and one that should be forced on all the rest.

    It’s a massive betrayal for the Oz government to have facilitated this immigration.

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  14. Richard Upton United States says:

    Damian:

    You said, “How would you response to same kinda rants about “christians” in muslim countries? Where have you been that past 30 years? The Muslum Religion want all other religions (infidels) wiped off the face of the earth. Go to any muslim nation and you are directed by their laws and if you do not go by what they say you are imprisoned or beheaded. Your scribe is the stupidest I’ve heard yet. If you are a christian or anyother religion other than Islam/Muslim you will be beheaded if they become the majority where you are. It’s this type of stupidity that caused the Nazis to take control in the 30s. You are the most ignorant and luckiest person alive on the planet today.

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    • Damien United States says:

      Again, you’re reffering to words of small uneducated group. Could I take pastor Jone’s opinion as general opinion for Christians? Would all christians want to burn Koran?

      “Go to any muslim nation and you are directed by their laws and if you do not go by what they say you are imprisoned or beheaded.”

      Sorry, but anywhere you go, you’re directed by their laws. When in rome, you do as romans do, why not in Saudi Arabia? Surely if you’re bothered by their customs, don’t go.

      “Your scribe is the stupidest I’ve heard yet. If you are a christian or anyother religion other than Islam/Muslim you will be beheaded if they become the majority where you are”

      You know why? Because I’m not intolerant, racist and protectionist like most people come here. I lived abroad all my life and relized what makes us different is not cultural or religious beliefs, it’s just different personalities. All counties, human groups are made of different personalities, some fanatic, some careless. I chose to not to pay attention what makes us different, but what brings us together. Have you ever been in a room and can’t remember why you got there?

      “You are the most ignorant and luckiest person alive on the planet today.”

      O believe my, my world is wonderful. I have friends from all religions and backgrounds and we laugh at people like most of you in this page. Remember, world is what we make of it.

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      • Me here Australia says:

        “Sorry, but anywhere you go, you’re directed by their laws. When in rome, you do as romans do, why not in Saudi Arabia? Surely if you’re bothered by their customs, don’t go.”
        Well there you go. That’s exactly the argument behind the new immigration policy in the Netherlands. Newcomers obey Dutch laws, which originate from Dutch custom. You obviously agree, but enjoy being polemic.

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        • Damien Japan says:

          “Well there you go. That’s exactly the argument behind the new immigration policy in the Netherlands. Newcomers obey Dutch laws, which originate from Dutch custom. You obviously agree, but enjoy being polemic.”

          Sir, it’s not the same argument. Asking new comers to obey the Dutch laws is one thing, abondoning multiculturism is another. Dutch aren’t bothered by budists practicing their religion, but Muslims. They are simply saying we don’t want people that don’t want to learn our language and culture. Do as we do or leave is what they are saying. I’m sure they have no problem jailing muslims when they openly break the law.
          Generalizing is wrong. It brings unrair treatment to the good people when they don’t deserve it.
          Problem is not religion, its education. Do you think it’s a coincedance that less educated people are most religious? Muslim countries happens to be the ones with not much education. When people can’t explain things, they turn to god. More they know, less they need a figure to pray to.

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  15. dan United Kingdom says:

    Islam is not just religious, it is social, political and financial. It is also intolerant of other religions and cultures.
    More power to the Dutch, for standing up for their own free culture.

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  16. linda laurie United States says:

    GREAT FOR HOLLAND, ALL COUNTRIES NEED TO DO THE SAME!!!

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  17. Elroy Canada says:

    The burqa and sharia law are incompatible with western (christian) values of equality. How can you hold dearly a value system that says everyone is equal and then allow 1/2 of the population to be treated as second class citizens.

    There are many “flavors” of Islam just like there are many “flavors” of Christianity and Judeaism (check out the turmoil in Israel right now). Not all are bad.

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  18. Si United Kingdom says:

    A good start, but only a start. Geert needs to be running the show in order to make the difficult decisions that are necessary. Only Geert has the balls to see it through an actually deport the ones who don’t play ball. It’s not much good shelving multiculturalism if there isn’t the ultimate sanction for those whose beliefs are incompatible with democracy and freedom. But like I said, it’s a start.

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  19. American United States says:

    What a great man and it’s long overdue for Western countries to abandon importing foreigners (especially) Muslims from other countries. The policy has failed and brought misery to the countries that engaged in it. Time for change…

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  20. Jerry F United States says:

    The saying goes when in Rome do as the Rommans do. If you go to another country, you went for a reson and do not try to change their culture to something you have already left. If you do not like what that country has to offer go back home and live the type of life you want. Don’t exspect that country to bend over backwards to apease you, lear to adapt to that country language and it’s culture. It’s unfair to thoes who live there. Beleave in what you may but don’t expect the wourld to change for you. It’s called freedom. I,m for what the Dutch govermwent is doing. Don’t become a burdon to the host country.

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    • Joe United States says:

      This is what the Hispanic and Latino and Asian and Somalian immigrants/economic refugees need to understand.I blame The two party political organizations and pro-immigrant organizations for allowing for the importation of third world unskilled and unhealthy immigrants.These bastards that are responsible for the importation of these unhealthy third world people should have a few of these families live in their gated communities for a few months so that the immigrants can assimilate,that’s if they have any will power to do so.Some third world immigrants have the will power to properly assimilate.They can stay while the loafers will be deported back to their impoverished homelands.

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  21. The Neandertals United Kingdom says:

    Good call!

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  22. Damien United States says:

    C’mon people admit it, you’re bunch of intolerant racist people, took the opportunnity to rant about people you hate. But also know that you’re the lasts of a dieing breed, along with religious people as well. I won’t see it, but I can only hope my grandchildren will live in a much better world. World that tolerates different cultures, languages and ideologies at the same time cracking down on parasites of communities, lazy fucks and racist pigs.

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  23. Winston United Kingdom says:

    Great victory for the dutch if they actually do what they say. We have a prime Minister in the UK who u turned on on every policy that got him elected

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  24. James South Africa says:

    Aspects of inconvenient history -

    http://www.scribd.com/Huckelberry

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  25. James Hill United States says:

    Religion should be used to better ourselves and encourage us to believe in ourselves and realize our potential.
    When people use religion to foster sick egos and say “I’m better than you, and/or my religion is the only way,” then religion is being abused. This is why I have no use for protestant or evangelical Christianity. These are redneck faiths and are where the uneducated people go.
    Religion is what you make of it. Use it to grow yourself, not destroy your capacity to think with an open mind.
    Your mind belongs to you and no one else. Don’t let anyone else control it.
    Use your religion wisely.

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  26. Angela United Kingdom says:

    Damien, please read about the German peoples story about how the nazi’s were the minority extremists one year and the next they got into government and started mass murder and the invasion of other countries. The reality is the way the nazi’s did it is exactly the same way the Muslims are doing it. Muslims really do think they will rule the world and they do not hide the fact that anyone who does not follow the Muslim ways does not deserve life.
    I do not belong to any anti racist group but i am very concerned at the rate Muslims are colonising and demanding their rights over our own culture in our own country. We even tolerate the extremists holding up banners ‘death to british soldiers and islam rules not man made rules’. There is civil unrest here and its not the white or blackl british that have caused it, it is the muslims own doing for not taking up a western way of living but instead challenging it and making us accept their way of living.

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    • Damien Japan says:

      Angela,

      Yes, but Nazis were elected by their people, they were very popular. Interesting thing is, they also believed foreigners had no place in their country. If this man’s ideas become popular one day, will it be different than what Nazis had done?

      “they do not hide the fact that anyone who does not follow the Muslim ways does not deserve life.”

      Sorry but where have you seen this? Please forward me to the article that shows muslims thinks this way. Haven’t you heard Israel offered a house to each Jew living in Iran if they moved to Israel. None did. Jews in Iran? Yes, Jews in Iran are very happy with their lives. There are Churches and Synagogs in most muslim countries. Muslims believe that Moses and Jesus are the prophets of same God as Mohammad is. So people you are talking about are not in majority.

      All I’m trying to do here is to make you people understand not all muslims act same and generalizing is wrong.

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  27. Jim K Netherlands says:

    :) The message the multitudes need to come to understand.

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