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Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest



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193 Responses to " Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest "

  1. Rose United States says:

    Thank you, Dale and Lynda

    God bless America and those 14 States!!!

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    • Bryan United States says:

      I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I’m definitely keeping up with it. In the event that it IS true, this is unprecedented…and I sincerely hope that those 14 states stand their ground and tell Obama to go straight to hell. These states have every right to have their own militias and they’ll certainly have my backing.

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      • Pat Downing United States says:

        I’m with you Bryan. If we don’t start standing our ground we might as well kiss our a** goodby. I, for one, am not ready to give up or give in. I stand my ground right here in the great state of Texas. I’m a great-granny and proud of it.

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        • Bryan United States says:

          You know Pat, I am from a military family. I am fully committed to supporting our military, but for the first time in a long time, I do NOT support it’s commander in chief. I think he’s destroying the country and it makes me sick to think that every day, more and more 18 year olds are going into the service to support this lunatic. I’m not a great-grandfather, I’m not even a grandfather, but I am a PROUD father of a 15 year old, absolutely BRILLIANT young lady, and I could not, with a straight face recommend her using those talents in our nations military. Not knowing who is ultimately deciding her fate. In truth, I’ve never been more scared in my life for our country.

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          • Pat Downing United States says:

            I fear for my sons, daughter-in-laws, granddaughters and great-grandchildren. I was raised in the 50′s when living was simple and greed hadn’t taken over our lives. I pray daily and nightly that God will intervene and that America will return to Christian beliefs and we as a nation will come together in strength. If God is taken out of America, which is happening before our very eyes, we will fall, just as Ronald Reagan predicted. I just pray there are enough Christians to stand firm in our Christian faith and heritage. God help us all. I am scared spitless.

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  2. Deb United States says:

    True or not true? Read Revelation (the Bible). That is where you will find the answer.

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    • james willis United States says:

      Revelation was a first century prophesy aimed at Nero and other tyrants who were killing Christians. Whoever wrote revelation was obviously a few beads short of a rosary, or was on acid!
      Get real Deb.

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  3. LCPL GILLIS Japan says:

    this is ridiculous. Americans will never be disarmed. The military (which would include MYSELF, United States Marine Corps, oorah) would never turn on the people we risk our lives to protect. Obama will never become a dictator, even if he wanted to. Were never going to roll over and go Socialist. Foriegn Military has increased significantly in America, BECAUSE WE TRAIN THEM. We host Foriegn Military constantly so we can train them to train their Military, so were also not trying to take over the world. Isreal will always be our ally. Mexico isnt going to take us over. Even though US-Canadian relations are mainly insults to each other, were probably the greatest ally’s (military and economics). Get over yourselves. God Bless America.

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  4. gardengrows United States says:

    Do a random act of kindness ASAP. This article is fun.
    It may not be true, but is interesting to read.

    Get busy with your target practice, soccer moms of
    America! You’ve got the best SHOT if the military are not independent thinkers if and when they are “called to arms” by the so called commander in chief who has never had a real job before the presidency.

    God BLESS US ALL.

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  5. Sick of them United States says:

    You have made me feel better LCPL GILLIS.
    I just hope you are right. I read scarey stuff. I do think there are crimes committed and they are getting a pass on them. How much more do we have to take?
    Thank you for your service.

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  6. Rose United States says:

    Also The Old Testament, Obadiah, one short chapter, and Ezekial, chapters 38 and 39.

    That will make Liberals and USURPERS very angry!

    Very soon, now.

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  7. JoeJ United States says:

    This is the gayest article yet. It’s wording is a clear indication of the same propagandic fear that Republicans are so known for. So many of Obama’s actions have fully contradicted these crazy ideas.

    Go back to during the election and realize how informed Obama was over the coming revolution. People are waking up alright. But it’s not to some Obama led “socialized” society. It’s too the decade of terrorism led by a Republican. There’s nothing that Obama will do that compares to the dreadful Presidency that just ended.

    The fact is that Republicans have been caught red handed and have been forced to throw away their playbook because people know about it. All they have left are small annoyances, like this article.

    Personally I would be stopping the Republican led fear machine in it’s tracks too. That’s the reality of what Obama is doing.

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    • GUNDOCTOR United States says:

      HOOBOY! “JOE J”, YOU EITHER HAVE YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP
      YOUR RECTAL ORIFICE THAT YOU HAVE NO HOPE OF EVER
      SEEING THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN, OR YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER TYPICAL “DEMOCRAP” (spelling correct) TRYING
      TO USURP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH YOUR BULLSHIT
      PROPAGANDA!!!!

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  8. Sandra Leathers United States says:

    Joe, you better wake up before it is too late.I do agree that the republicans have been just as bad as the democrats.They both have bankrupted our country, but Obama is a muslim and the worst president that we have ever had.He wants to bring us to our knees so that we have to depend on the government for all our needs.He also wants us to be part of the one world government, that he wants to be the leader of.Wake up. Read the bible all of this is in there.God bless.

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    • downintx United States says:

      Sandra, I am not real happy with the Dems or Reps at this point but people like Joe just doesn’t get it and probably doesn’t read his Bible, if he has one. Let us just pray that people are on their knees praying because we are facing the greatest battle we have ever faced and if we do not VOTE corruption out of office, it will only worsen. God help us.

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  9. Dale Campbell United States says:

    @downintx. People like Joe don’t read the bible, they don’t read anything. All they do is sit on their asses and believe everything they see on lamestream media. And, a pretty good trick too, i might add, (sitting on the couch watching TV with your head up your ass)! LOL

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    • pete United States says:

      if you speak so much about god or jesus ,then why you uses so much curse words….ungodly.

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  10. John Holmes United States says:

    You fake christian turd mongers need to shut your uneducated pie holes. This is a European Union website, and should be respected as such. It is not a forum for America’s lower class to vent their ignorance in.
    Got it? Now go do like Judas and go hang yourselves.
    You GD fundies make me vomit blood. Born again, LOLOL
    Try “stillborn…again”

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    • GUNDOCTOR United States says:

      :roll: JOHN HOLMES–DON’T YOU WISH! YOU STRIKE ME
      AS THE TYPICAL IGNORANT POMPOUS BRITISH ASS…LIKE
      THE ONES WE RAN OUT OF OUR COUNTRY SO MANY YEARS AGO.
      YOU JERK-OFFS STILL HAVEN’T GOTTEN OVER THAT! PACK
      THAT IN YOUR PIOUS PIPE AND SMOKE IT!! OH, I FORGOT,
      YOUR MOUTH IS COVERED BY YOUR POMPOUS ASS!!!

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      • james hill United States says:

        I agree with Holmes on the Fox News brainwashed right wing extremists who call themselves christians. They aren’t christians. They are uneducated and dangerous. LOL @ the tea party!
        I voted for President Obama, and I will stand behind President Obama. I voted for Biden, and I will stand behind Biden, and Michelle is a genuine First Lady, and I stand behind her.
        My advice to you fundies. Put the bible down and pick up Britannica! Long Live the Queen!
        Amen Homie! Oh Hell Yes! :twisted:

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  11. John Holmes United States says:

    AVE MARIA!!!!!!!!!!!! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH RULES!!!!!!!
    LONG LIVE POPE BENEDICT!!!!!!!! :twisted:

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  12. UH, had anybody bothered to do their reasearch? The Prez does not have the Powers of Arrest.

    Sorry to upset your hallucination(s).

    Semper Fi,
    Gregory

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  13. Gwendolyn United States says:

    Unfortunately, there will aways be those who never do “get it”. They are so set on sitting back, taking in the news from biased sources, and collecting their welfare,not ever wanting it to stop. They are the ones that will be hiding under the bed, begging for help from all who they now dissagree with, and who they will turn in if they know you have a firearm. Simply dummycrat SHEEPLE! Get a life!

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  14. Gregory Romeu United States says:

    Joe J! We said to NOT DRINK THE KOOL-AID!

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  15. Ross Wolf United States says:

    Could Obama Be America’s First Defacto President?

    Innocent Americans increasingly are sent to prison based on false evidence manufactured by police forensic crime labs. Now President Obama wants the power to incarcerate U.S. Citizens not on evidence, but for what they might do.

    Compare: Two days after the 1933 burning of Germany’s Parliament Building, blamed on communists, Hitler responded with a powerful speech before Parliament. Hitler asked Parliament to suspend sections of the Reich Constitution that protected Citizens’ Rights and Civil Liberties. Hitler said the suspension was necessary so government could protect the homeland from being destroyed by communists. Hitler promised Parliament the Constitution would later be restored. After Parliament passed Hitler’s Discriminatory Decrees and Hitler signed it February 28, 1933, Hitler immediately used the news laws to abolished Parliament. See Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Laws below:

    Obama gave a speech in May 2010, that proposed incarcerating in indefinite prolonged detention without evidence, any person government deemed a “combatant” or likely to engage in a violent act in the future; that would include U.S. Citizens “without evidence of wrongdoing.” With that amount power Obama could like Hitler arrest members of Congress, drag U.S. Citizens off the street and from their homes to be imprisoned indefinitely based only on Government’s claim they are a “combatant” or likely to engage in a violent act in the future.

    If Congress approves Obama’s categories of people likely to engage in violent acts, overnight millions of lawful U.S. activists could be subject to Indefinite Prolonged Detention. When you examine Obama’s speech, it appears Obama wants retroactive power to incarcerate anyone government claims (prior) supported violent acts on the premise, that person is likely to engage in violent acts in the future: U.S. activists would be vulnerable because no activist can control what other activists or groups might do illegally they network with domestically or overseas. Government would only have to claim a person; group or organization might commit a violent act in the future to order Preventative Detention of lawful participants with no evidence whatsoever. Americans would be afraid to speak out.

    It is foreseeable any “individual” who writes on the Internet or verbally express an opinion against or entity of U.S. Government or its coalition partners could be deemed a “Combatant” or likely to engage in or cause violent acts: government too easily could claim an author’s writings inspired people in the past and will in the future to commit violent acts. It is problematic that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings or allowed legal counsel; interrogated, will be prosecuted for ordinary crimes because of their alleged admissions while held in indefinite “Prolonged Detention.”

    Obama wants the power to override the U.S. Constitution. Obama wants the power to detain indefinitely without probable cause or evidence, any U.S. Citizen based on conjecture someone might do something violent in the future.

    Obama similar to Hitler is centralizing power in the federal Government by getting passed legislation that U.S. government potentially could use to intimidate and threaten businesses and corporations among others. Hitler got similar laws passed shortly before the burning of the German Parliament building blamed on the communists. Immediately after the fire, Hitler used his new laws to coerce corporations and others to support passage of fascist legislation that suspended provisions of the German Constitution that protected Citizens’ freedoms and civil liberties. Obama is now approaching a position where he can use similar new laws, including the Patriot Act and 200 asset forfeiture laws to seize any corporation or individual’s assets, force corporations and other institutions to support legislation that threatens or curtails the rights of Americans. This President not only intends to void the U.S. Constitution he is numb to the Majority Will of the American People.

    DECREE OF THE REICH PRESIDENT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE AND STATE

    Note: Based on translations by State Department, National Socialism, 1942 PP. 215-17, and Pollak, J.K., and Heneman, H.J., The Hitler Decrees, (1934), pp. 10-11.7

    In virtue of Section 48 (2) of the German Constitution, the following is decreed as a defensive measure against Communist acts of Violence, endangering the state:

    Section 1
    Sections 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124, and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. Thus, restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press, on the right of assembly and the right of association, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

    Section 2
    If in a state the measures necessary for the restoration of public security and order are not taken, the Reich Government may temporarily take over the powers of the highest state authority.

    Section 4
    Whoever provokes, or appeals for or incites to the disobedience of the orders given out by the supreme state authorities or the authorities subject to then for the execution of this decree, or the orders given by the Reich Government according to Section 2, is punishable—insofar as the deed, is not covered by the decree with more severe punishment and with imprisonment of not less that one month, or with a fine from 150 up to 15,000 Reichsmarks.

    Whoever endangers human life by violating Section 1, is to be punished by sentence to a penitentiary, under mitigating circumstances with imprisonment of not less than six months and, when violation causes the death of a person, with death, under mitigating circumstances with a penitentiary sentence of not less that two years. In addition the sentence my include confiscation of property.

    Whoever provokes an inciter to or act contrary to public welfare is to be punished with a penitentiary sentence, under mitigating circumstances, with imprisonment of not less than three months.

    Section 5
    The crimes which under the Criminal Code are punishable with penitentiary for life are to be punished with death: i.e., in Sections 81 (high treason), 229 (poisoning), 306 (arson), 311 (explosion), 312 (floods), 315, paragraph 2 (damage to railroad properties, 324 (general poisoning).

    Insofar as a more severe punishment has not been previously provided for, the following are punishable with death or with life imprisonment or with imprisonment not to exceed 15 years:

    1. Anyone who undertakes to kill the Reich President or a member or a commissioner of the Reich Government or of a state government, or provokes to such a killing, or agrees to commit it, or accepts such an offer, or conspires with another for such a murder;

    2. Anyone who under Section 115 (2) of the Criminal Code (serious rioting) or of Section 125 (2) of the Criminal Code (serious disturbance of the peace) commits the act with arms or cooperates consciously and intentionally with an armed person;

    3. Anyone who commits a kidnapping under Section 239 of the Criminal with the intention of making use of the kidnapped person as a hostage in the political struggle.

    Section 6
    This decree enters in force on the day of its promulgation.

    Reich President
    Reich Chancellor
    Reich Minister of the Interior
    Reich Minister of Justice

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  16. Sick of this United States says:

    I agree with both of you Bryan and Pat. I’m from the great state of Georgia and the police here have been treating innocent citizens like crimmals.

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  17. Rose United States says:

    They removed the story but not the comments – weird.

    However – I will say this – 14 and counting State Governors of the USA were in the news all the time telling everyone what they thought of the anti-Constitutional activities of Odrama Queen – UNTIL THIS STORY CAME OUT AND WAS JERKED UNCEREMONIOUSLY the way only NON-PC material is.

    Why did all those state officials shut up the same time?

    Maybe the story was fake – but why did all those governors shut up at that particular moment? NOT because Odrama Queen started BEHAVING!

    Something stinks like a barge full of fish shop garbage.

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    • Pat Downing United States says:

      I can sure smell the stench all the way down here and it’s not a good thing. Yep, there’s something definitely rotten in Washington. I’m not really happy with the Republicans or the Democrats, but I firmly believe that Odrama Queen (good one) was planted there to take us down and if we don’t stand up to him, the chances are he might succeed. Again, if enough Christian people pray without ceasing God will hear us. I just hope there’s enough of us left.

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  18. Sick of this United States says:

    Pat, I was a teen in the 50′s. BEST YEARS OF MY LIFE.

    I live near an Army base. Planes have been coming in bringing forign troops to this training base. I counted 45 planes in 3 nights a couple of months ago then 20 in one night a few weeks ago. This is not normal here. They fly behind where I live. I hear 80,000 are here. The oil spill is fishy too.

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    • Pat Downing United States says:

      I do not frighten easily and I do not believe that people like you and me are fear mongers as some have suggested, I think we’re realist. I have heard about troops (mostly foreign) coming in and it is scary because I do not think that Americans will turn against “real” Americans, it would almost have to be from an outside source. I live very close to a nuclear plant and firmly believe it would be one of the first hits for terrorists to make. Yes, for the first time in my life, I’m afraid for all of us.

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  19. Sick of this United States says:

    I am telling the way it is. Ft. Stewart Ga. has been bring in troops and Obamaqueen flew in same base 10 days after the first group arrived. Stayed 4 hours and said he was talking about health care, yeah right. I knew then something was going on. I hear they think we will cause trouble. I also think the economy will crash and then people will go to the streets like they did in Greece. Pray, pray thats all we can do.

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  20. Sick of this United States says:

    This site is from Orlando Fla. This will back up my story.
    http://www.americancrisis.us/Article.php?ID=69876&M=1&

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  21. Rose United States says:

    Guys, I think we all agree, this requires a LOT of prayer.

    Psalm 91 is known as The Soldiers Shield.

    There is a lady goes by a variation of Seawitch that has been on a forum I go to all the time, for many years, and she is rock solid reliable. Old School.

    Stories like that were out during the Clinton Administration, and the news finally broke some of them – at that time, they were doing “war game maneuvers” on city streets of major American cities without notifying any city officials or authorities.
    A local news station broke it and a national chain backed them up. I’ve lost the computer (by crash, not misplaced), that I had the addies of the stories on.

    For now, just pray, and talk to Jesus conversationally as never before in your life.

    Keep on making sure your relationship with Him is what it needs to be, First and Foremost of all!

    God be with you all! Thanks for being here!

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  22. Sick of them United States says:

    This is posted by seawitch. A site in Orlando Fla. I think a tv or radio station.
    http://www.americancrisis.us/Article.php?ID=69876&M=2&

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  23. g7enn United States says:

    I grew up in the 50s & 60s in rural California. I had a ball.
    I feel sorry for the kids these days.

    Obama and his staff are mostly fascists, totally controlled by the corporate elite. They need to be removed and they will be before 2012. The military is waiting for the right moment when the American people have had enough.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbE4E769838
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSzNCQM6hsc&feature=related

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  24. Jay United States says:

    America!!! Wake up. GOD is in total control; he loves us but has taken his blessings and protection away from America becuase we “told him to get out of our lives”. Honor God, Love him with all of your Heart and he will forgive us and bless us again. If you Love America, lets get back to our roots, if you think we are not a Christian nation take a tour of all the monumnents in Washington D.C. Love the Lord with all your Heart, lets take back our Country via the Power of Prayer; nothing else will do!!!

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  25. Pat Downing United States says:

    I agree with you, Jay, it’s going to take a lot of prayer. I feel sad for the James Hills and John Holmes of this world, they will never know the peace that we, as Christians, know. I will continue to pray for them that they will one day see the light and feel the peace through salvation of their own souls. God help them. I also pray for this nation as a whole. I still believe that we are a Christian nation, but if the homeland security keeps leaving the door open for every non-believer and terrorist, it may not be for long.

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  26. Pat Downing United States says:

    Our only hope, other than prayer: The American people deserve answers because bribery is an impeachable offense. Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution reads: “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” I think that just about covers them all.

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  27. Sammy The Great United States says:

    I find myself in a time and place where you must look under the label ”HOAX” to find the truth. This ‘callup’ of Minn. and Tx National Guard was a thread of concern on abovetopsecret about the same time this story broke… Everybodies states were calling up the National Guard.

    On another note:I posted the link to story about North Korea hitting oil rig in Gulf only to be labeled (within 60 seconds) ‘HOAX’, then lost internet connection! After 2 weeks and 2 visits from the cable co. Im back online. There’s a lot more going on than we are being told and the mainstream media is just one of their many powerful tool’s.

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  28. the Maccabee United States says:

    Im not sure who is being fooled the most, the Democrat’s or the Republicans. It’s a tough call but anyone with any sense at all knows that BOTH parties are doing anti-american deeds. Legislation that’s designed to harm our National Security such as EPA, Healthcare, Endless Wars, and refusal to secure borders is a deliberate act of treason on the Federal level. Theres no way around it. It’s their ONLY Constitutional responsibility and they BLATANTLY REFUSE TO SECURE IT. If you think for a second that the men on TV are running things then your sadly mistaken and hopelessly niave. Since JFK there has been another entity at the controls. An enemy within. And they’re bringing us down through methods delivered into your homes via “boobtube”: Political Correctness, Diverrrrrsity, Equaaaaaality, Enviornmental fear mongering. Wake up decendants of greatness, humble yourselves,turn from your wicked ways return to the Lord your God. He will once again pour out the desperately needed and very much missed wisdom that is all but lost in USA

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  29. Rose United States says:

    So what is the bottom line here? This is beginning to look like, contrary to the conduct of the people in question, i.e., formerly vociferous Governors are suddenly very quiet for several months… the Liberal Socialist lovers on this thread say it ain’t so, and the Conservative Constitution lovers are highly suspicious, and are NOT among the ones declaring this to be a hoax.

    Liberal Socialists may THINK themselves “all that and a bag of chips”, but unfortunately – they have richly earned their LACK of credibility. And Odrama Queen has CERTAINLY earned our heavy suspicion, since all anti-Constitutional American politicians put together haven’t done as much damage as he has in the passed 2 years. Not to say he doesn’t appreciate their foundation he is building on…
    Certainly not an honorable lot.

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  30. Dale C. United States says:

    Haven’t been on this site in some time but, reading the current posts, i am still drawn back to two in particular. One an English subject. It always amazes me that a Brit could hold a Queen in such high regards when all she is, is a parasite with no power, who looks down on her subjects with disdain and is no more than a financial parasite with dubious claims to the thrown. And, another, a catholic who reveres a church that is rife with paganism, drunk with power and is full of clergy with no other intent than sexual molestation of young boys. Makes it hard to even consider their opinion!

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  31. Frederick Richard United States says:

    Folks,
    The TRUTH–All CAPS, ie THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a sneaky way to confuse proper english. We were the united States of America, each a separate and sovereign country, joining in Union via compact as a Confederation of States with a General Government to protect and defend one and all, promote justice, etc…Now, Obama is the CEO of a foreign power based in Washington DC, the CEO of a corporation that is in commerce, taking it, us, the whole banana over through hostile takeover (GM, Wall Street, The Banks.) The Democrat and Republican “representatives” are just actors, putting on a show to keep you entertained as the rug is being pulled out. Fractional reserve banking is EVIL, the work of the devil. The instant the first Goldsmith issued a receipt for FICTITIOUS gold he should have been shot, hung, stabbed and stoned to death as a warning against all the unGodly!!! Instead we acquiesced and HE bribed the politicians with his ill gotten gains! Now we are on the brink and no one even knows why!

    Welcome to the other side of the rainbow!

    God Bless us all

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  32. Sern United States says:

    I spoke with my mom about this story before it was taken down. She spoke with a government contractor she knows. One of those guys contracted by a branch of government to go into other countries and collect information and all kinds of other miscellaneous things like that. I don’t know the guy personally but from what I hear he’s a good person. And you have to realize that not all private contractors do terrible things.

    Anyway, she asked him to ask around about this story and its implications. He said he would and he did. He told us that when he asked vague questions about the threat by Obama to the 14 governors he was promptly told to butt out and not ask those kinds of questions. I don’t believe he was threatened but it was made clear he wasn’t to ask anything of the sort and to shut his mouth. So..of course he did. I would have too.

    Who’s to say whether that means this could be real or not, regardless of what anyone or any other source has to say. It makes you wonder though, if it weren’t real why wouldn’t they just tell him?

    Either way I’m not saying this proves or disproves anything. I just thought I would state what happened when he did ask around.

    ======================

    As for the Christianity stuff. I was born and raised into the christian world, mostly Lutheran. Through the years I always had questions that most christians couldn’t answer to my fullest expectations. I believed for many years and now I’m to the point of not knowing what to believe or caring that much. I certainly have nothing against christians or against atheists.

    I find myself to be a reasonable person. I try to live by fact and not opinion. Most people agree, regardless of their religion or non-religion, that education is very important. Yet there is a large group of christians who throw science out the window when it comes to the bible or anything else involving their religion. How can you do that? There is also a group that believe science and christianity go hand in hand and they don’t contradict each other, I always preferred this thinking but as I said I’ve gone neutral.

    Christians are taught to live by faith. How is it that when something bad happens we ask God why he let it happen? And yet others believe he causes both good and bad things to happen. That he controls all. How boring. To live my life knowing that nothing humans do, aside from maybe worship, will change the course of mankind? That God pulls all the strings? So then what? We curse him when a tsunami kills 4 million people, when your kid prematurely dies, and praise him when good things happen? None of this makes sense. God is all powerful and he loves us, but he causes bad things to happen to us too? I never believed that he controlled everything anyway. I mean, how can a just God let such horrible things happen? It has nothing to do with that… There are a small group of christians who believe that he neither makes good or bad things happen, they just happen. That’s the group I fell into. When a tsunami hits, it’s not because he caused it, it’s because nature caused it. It’s called the cycle of life and whether by nature or man made situations both good and bad things will always happen. To appreciate the good you must also know the bad.

    I no longer go to church because of all the contradictions I find in the bible and in beliefs. Not only that, they put fear into you by forcing you to think that if you don’t BELIEVE you are condemned to hell for eternity. That sounds a bit tyrannical if you ask me. Christians love and keep faith and pray, but non believers are banished to the depths! Well…I’m sure not feeling the love.

    It’s so easy to blame ourselves as a whole populace for ignoring the christian faith and God when ‘evil’ befalls us. But I hear none of that when everything is going well. In times of need it is easy to turn to supernatural powers and fabricate things that likely don’t exist at all. But psychologically they fill in a place that needs to be filled in times of need, whatever that need is.

    I know this later part of my text has nothing to do with the story but I felt I should address this christian vs. atheist bashing that I see all over the internet and even here where there should be none. I’ve seen “christians” ruthlessly attack atheists, and of course I mean verbally. Not only that but anti-creationists as well. Funny thing, I have yet to see anti-creationists attack christians for their beliefs. They may make jokes and laugh about it but they don’t go out of their way to make propaganda like I’ve seen on Youtube.

    I see nothing but contradiction. Why would I want to be a part of this? Oh and Pat Downing, you say we will never know the peace that you do? I beg to differ. I was a christian and believed fully for close to 17 years. I feel the same peace now that I did then. I’m no more hateful of anyone’s beliefs, in fact I’m even more open to various people’s and their perception of life.

    I just wish a lot more christians would pick up a sociology book for once and read it all the way through, a good one. And no it’s not full of anti-christian propaganda lol.

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    • Pat Downing United States says:

      Sern, I think you make some good points and I’m glad that you have the peace that you do, but it’s possible that some of your earlier teachings could be partly the reason. Strangely enough I have friends of many faiths and some with none and I can still love them and pray for them and do quite often. I pray you find your way home as well.

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  33. Steve M United States says:

    :twisted: This guy, mr. obama can’t lead, only bully. Like Mr. Potter in “It’s a wonderful life”…it knaws at obama when he can’t get his way…a school yard bully is all he is. Governors, your doing the right thing!…we need to protect this country from that commie :oops: obama. There has never been in the White House or in politics anyone that hates this country more than the obamas. This jerk don’t even put his hand over his heart to respect our flag (he should of got a swift kick in the ass right then), shows no respect for anything American. Our culture, values. But BOZO-bama will bow to some king and kiss his hand…way to go knuckle-head. obama you don’t represent The American People, not acting like a whipping boy to another country. Hey :-x AK-MED…piss on my hand so obama can kiss it. Governors please hold your ground, if this BOZO keeps pulling his bullshit…pretty speaches to connect with us…pretty soon comrad obama will take home plate and run to some rag-head country. He is trying to cause a world war, him and clinton (that power hungry minion). That would cause a shit-storm..and obama would declare himself king :evil: A self proclained dictator and try to use our military and law enforcement like Hitlers SS. Will they obey? What if they don’t? To try to pit U.S citizens against U.S. citizens of the Military and L.E. positions, he wants civil un-rest in our country. Maybe he’ll call in the “tally-bon” to bring order to our country…hell some are here from Gitmo already. mr. obama is worse tha Osama for this country. At least Osama is up front about his hate of America, obama just keeps telling us lies from that Mr. Po-ta-toe-head face…and doesn’t care if we believe him or not, ps: we don’t! Suck bacon you liar!!! This guy is so much worse that clinton, :( come on already…IMPEACH! Make our Founding Fathers Proud! :-D Be leary when obama enters Europe in muslins rags wearing a blue turbin. NEVER TRUST A COMMIE!

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